Number 3 together with 23 in conference? (5)

Guardian Cryptic #29146 | 13 Across | 2023-08-11
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I haven't cracked this one yet — but the brilliant team at Fifteensquared have:

A Qaos-type clue: XL (forty in Roman numerals) sounds like (in conference) EXCEL (answer to 3dn) + XX (twenty in Roman numerals) sounds like EXECS (answer to 23dn) = sixty

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